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Is your housemate an atheist?
March 12th, 2008 6:03 am MDT
Is Your Housemate an Atheist? by ~LivelyIvy on deviantART
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If you read through my journal, you'll see it's not all politically charged. Some of it consists of things that I found funny or pretty, whatever.
Jon hates that I'm so antagonistic with my posts, but I think of a journal as the best way to get to know someone.
Dan I TOTALLY agree with the journal concept. If you want to get to know someone the best way is to read what they have written. What makes them "tick", how well they write, what they say, what they consider important, etc. I tell all the guys who hit on me to go read my journals, If you want me duhhh get to know me. I did like the one with the candy bar a few weeks back. That one was really funny...
I know not all of what you have said is "antagonistic" but a lot of it is...thats ok though. I get the feeling you're just passionate about your beliefs and that is GOOD. It's funny that Jon and you "fight" about it. That cracks me up. The thought of you two chattering at each other in the office. LOL
Sadly, we don't share an office just yet. Someday. The funny thing is that Jon is an atheist too, he's just worried that I'm chasing people off with some of my posts. My position is that if people don't want to read them, they will ignore them. If they read them and disagree or agree, then they are welcome to post. I'll generally respond well to anyone who actually tries to discuss things.
There are always a few that resort to name calling, but they aren't the norm and that gives me hope.
I just think that we would be better off in the world if we all just talked.
I thought you guys worked from Jon's house...or something. Oh well it still was a funny thought, you two yakking at each other over your cubicles :)
I can see how some of what you write could bother people. Your only one guy among many here and the trolls probably scare more people off than your rants do. I like to read your posts they always make me think....Some good, some bad. At least they are well written and have a point.
I am very big on discussion. It just seem like those who dont believe in God spend a lot of time saying it. It's like atheists need to validate their lack of belief. Personally I dont believe in all the mubo jumbo vodoo stuff but I never say it or "cry foul" about it. I guess we all see the world through our own rose colored glasses.
P.S. You looked really hot in your German Infantry uniform :)
Actually, I think that most atheists don't talk about it. There are very few vocal atheists. I'm one of them. It might seem like we are trying to validate our existence.
In my case, I'm trying to help people understand that we are just like them. Part of their community. Sort of like URNotAlone. There are many more atheists that don't speak up, partially because they don't want or need the scorn or derision that will be heaped upon them. Partly because they are busy living their lives.
I actually try to be pretty abrasive at times. I like to think of myself as part of the aggressive vocal wing of the movement. Many more are sitting this out and watching to see what happens to those of us who open our mouths.
"I actually try to be pretty abrasive at times." No Kidding?? Really?? Dan your so funny sometimes.
I can see how your are definatly one of the "vocal" atheists. I do find it hard to beleive you actually think something is "going to happen" to those who are really passionate about their beliefs. Some people are just to busy doing their own thing to be really vocal like you are. Is it really a big deal though that some yell and scream like you do and others just whisper or nod.
I would imagine every group has gotten some derision or undeserved scorn of some type.We all just want to be who we are and do our thing whatever that is. Unfortunatly if you get a couple million people together a fight or to is bound to break out.
I feel like as long as you show respect for the people who don't agree with you be as vocal as you want.
If you had met me in person, you know I'm quite funny. Its actually less abrasive in person
As for respect, I personally don't care what people believe. It's only when they use their beliefs in bronze age myths to try to legislate my life that I have a problem.
I see the new atheist movement as a response to the crazy evangelical movement in this country.
Believe what you want, but don't force your beliefs into my government or laws.
I can already tell your funny. It's a girl thing. I agree that when others try to legislate whatever their beliefs are or their ideas of utopia on others it's asking for trouble. There are just to many people out there with varied interests and desires.
Think about it, if you believe there is no god. Are you right or wrong? As far as your concerned you are right. You may very well be, I certainly dont know. Does that make it ok to mandate by law that your belief is correct. No. So it's only fair that no law is made to mandate belief in god. I feel like weather sombody is right or wrong is less relavant than making sure they can be wrong if they want to be.
A lot of people think girls like me are evil, a sin, or whatever. Ok fine think that way but who's job is it to dictate write and wrong. Especially when I have not hurt anyone with how I chose to live my life.So I feel bad when we as a group get picked on because we believe differently than some other group.
P.S. You still look cute in your uniform
Hmm, I don't think it's all right to let people be wrong if that's their choice. It's not even an issue about god per se, but when that belief in god prevents research on stem cells, or interferes with reproductive rights or civil rights, we have a problem.
I'm not trying to legislate out belief in god. Only trying to prevent that belief from interfering with human progress. When people try to claim that the earth is only 6,000 years old, or that the primary mechanism in biology which we have learned to exploit to great advantage didn't happen, or that LGBTI people shouldn't have the same rights to happiness as others, then its a problem.
knowledge isn't a democracy. You don't get to pick only the answers that conform to your "beliefs" and thats whats causing the problem.
You have every right to believe that if you leave a saucer of milk on your doorstep, that the faeries will bring you good luck, but you shouldn't be forming a political action comittee to require all residents leave a saucer of milk on their doorstep during the full moon, or that your children should be required to learn that practice as part of their biology instruction.
I live in a state where you can't purchase alcohol on Sunday. Gay "marriage" is not allowed, and christian theology is taught in Social Studies class.
I have enormous respect for culture. I have enormous respect for knowledge. I have little to no respect for "beliefs".
As for the uniforms, thanks. I might kind of have a thing for em. :)
Dan thats the thing though, If people "believe" it does not matter weather its right or wrong. From their perspective it "is" right. So I can tell you all day long the sky is pink because I believe it is. No matter how much or often you show me it's blue doesn't matter. I do agree however that when a wrong belief is cast into stone it magnifies the problem.
The real question is what is progress? Your belief or mine? I'm right your wrong....Your right I'm wrong. Nobody has a absolute or monopoly on truth. Each of us has OUR truth. Whatever it may be.
"knowledge isn't a democracy. You don't get to pick only the answers that conform to your "beliefs" and thats whats causing the problem."
That was REALLY impressive. I was blown away by that. Honest.
The key is that knowledge changes, it adapts to the current world. Columbus showed the Queen that the world was not flat, before that the world WAS flat. So what we KNOW is FACT today may be turned on it's head tomorrow. Nobody on earth can actually prove one belief is right and one is wrong. Just think how much more we will know in a thousand years. Everything we think we KNOW will be laughed at by the people of tomorrow.
P.S. Thing or no thing, you still look TOTALLY hot in them! Also I love your profile pic, if you ever change it I'm going to kill you!!!